Today’s article is a guest post by Chelsea Bainbridge-Donner, the woman behind of one of my favorite Jiu Jitsu blogs, leaahh.com.
Jiu Jiu invited me to write a post, and I’ve been really wishy-washy about what I want to write about– which means it just hasn’t gotten done. But she gave me some things that she’d like to hear about, so I’m going to talk a little bit about competition.
Women face different challenges in the gym than men do, but this could easily be a primer for small men who train with heavyweights.
I’m pretty lucky, since I live geographically close to a lot of major tournaments, and I can compete on an international level regularly. I realize that not everyone has this ability or even the drive to compete on this level, but I’d still like to talk about competition– specifically, competition for women who aren’t in a really competition-oriented academy. Some people may ask me why I’m writing this “for women”– doesn’t it go against everything I usually write about? Yes and no, I suppose. Women face different challenges in the gym than men do, but this could easily be a primer for small men who train with heavyweights. There are also challenges when it comes to being a gender minority in an athletic environment, which is another issue I’ll address.
THE “GENTLE ART” IS REALLY NOT THAT GENTLE
Here’s a secret that it took me almost a decade to learn: the “gentle art” is really, really not gentle. The “gentle sex” is super-ultra-mega not gentle.
If you’re a female, particularly a small female, your male training partners go easy on you. This doesn’t mean that you don’t train hard, or that they don’t push you, put pressure on you, test you, challenge you– it just means that for the most part, they aren’t (and shouldn’t be) smashing down on you with everything they have. No one learns anything that way. But if you don’t have any female training partners that are of the same level, what you may be shocked by in competition is the pressure that women can put on you, and how it’s completely different from the pressure that men put on you. Women are tough, angry, and nearly every woman you come up against trains mostly with men. One of the biggest mistakes you can make is assuming you’re the only one who does. My female training partners have hurt me worse than any of my male training partners ever have– once, Angelica kneed me in the face so hard I needed emergency dental work. There’s nothing particularly gentle or fragile about women who train BJJ.
TRAINING WITH OTHER WOMEN IS INVALUABLE
I get questions all the time about how to compete, and what it’s like to be at Atos, training with one of the best competition teams on the planet right now. I don’t have all the answers, but I do know that even with the fantastic training I get, having more small women around would be better for me. I think that’s something really valuable that people overlook– having another woman on your team who is close to your size gives you a sense of the way women distribute their weight, how their flexibility alters their game, and the speed differential of smaller, lighter limbs. There are physiological differences that lead to a different type of game, like a stronger lower body– as one of my teammates points out, shaking his head, “women can find a knee-cut from anywhere.”
I don’t claim to be the best competitor out there, but I’m getting better at it every time I step on the mats. One thing that I struggle with at Atos is how to make the most out of the training opportunities I have, and how to make the things I’m learning applicable to me, and to my competition style. I’m lucky to have good friends on the mats, people who are always willing to work with me, but most of my training and learning is self-guided. I work out problems in my own game with the help of my teammates and coaches, but all the problems have to be recognized and addressed by me, because for the most part, I experience technical difficulties that my coaches and teammates would never foresee, let alone plan for (for example: being unable to triangle anything because my legs are too short).
THE LOVE/HATE RELATIONSHIP WITH COMPETING
When you step on the competition mats, it’s a fight. If you come to a fight armed only with vague philosophies and a belief that “technique beats strength,” you’re going to lose. Gabi Garcia doesn’t win matches based on technique, people– Bea Mesquita runs technical circles around her, but still loses because she’s just overpowered. How strong you are and how athletic you are matters a lot, especially when your opponent has good, or even passable, technique. It’s stated over and over again, but I think everyone should compete if they’re physically capable. I love competing, but I hate it; it lays all my flaws bare, but it’s so rewarding when it’s done right. If you’re a competitor, I think you need to lay aside the theory that BJJ is a “gentle art” at times, and accept that every match is, at its heart, a fight for dominance and ultimately, submission.
About the Author: Chlesea Bainbridge-Donner is a brown belt training at ATOS in San Diego, CA. She is an active competitor, and she blogs about BJJ at http://www.leaahhbjj.com
Jiu Jiu’s Question: Men and women – How have you found training with women different than training with men? Did it surprise you? Did you find their aggression levels were different? Women – Have you trained with men then competed with women? How did that differ?
Yay! I love reading Chelsea’s stuff! I do not compete in BJJ (except for the occasionally in-house tournament that my school hosts twice a year) but I did compete in karate many years ago. (In my youth, LOL.) What I have always wondered about the super competitive gyms like Atos is what happens to people when they no longer want to compete, either due to lack of interest, or age, or injury, or whatever. Do they continue training anyway for other reasons? Or do they end up quitting because they never discovered any of the other wonderful reasons to do BJJ? Also, what happens to the students who are not the best? Do they still find success in their training or do they end up just being punching bags for the champions? This kind of push yourself until you drop training is fantastic for those who can handle it, but the survival of the fittest mentally must result in a lot of people quitting.
Oh and I have been reading Chelsea’s blog for awhile and I am very happy I will never have to compete against her. 🙂 She would totally kick my butt!
Hey Jennifer, it’s nice to hear that you like my blog 🙂
To answer your question about Atos, we have plenty of hobbyists training with us. But even our hobbyists train really, really hard 🙂
Great post! I’ve always wondered how women felt in a BJJ gym. I’m a beginner with a wrestling background, middle aged, and am new to BJJ. Roughly 3 months in. I’ve sparred with women and I wonder how they would feel? There are few men their size, and even if they are their size it’s hard to go 100% so I totally see the desire of some women to enter as many tournaments as possible. On the other hand, I see many men who have no desire to enter tournaments. In my gym, I’ve met men in their 20 – 40’s, some of them quite good, from blue to brown belt who have never been in a tournament. We have sparring 2x daily, and some of them say they prefer the sparring of different sizes and going with multiple styles/different weight classes/builds/skill more regularly. 90% of the folks in the gym are there to learn and exercise, not really get into competition. Some (like myself) are just really busy with work/family so it’s hard to built up to a tournament, no excuse but just going to the gym 3-4x week is busy enough.
A question for you. Would you as a really skilled female BJJ lady, change your mind about tournaments for women if the ratio of men to women was about 50% at a typical BJJ gym? That is, if women were able to grapple with other women of different sizes, shapes, skills, but still all women – would that change your opinion about tournaments?
Any thoughts would be much appreciated. Also, any recommendations on how to spar with women as a beginner larger male? (I want to be helpful and not just turn it into a game of strength/weight/size. It’s not an official tournament, so of course there can be much more stalling, etc.)
I love tournaments– I don’t really have a negative view of them at all. But what would change is my readiness for tournaments… every time I compete it is less surprising, but women still do things that I don’t expect. It would be better for me if there were more women, but I can’t imagine that happening anytime soon 🙂
Having never been a larger male anything, I can’t really say… I’ve never had the experience of trying not to smash someone except the kids, and it’s easy to roll light with kids.
I love doing BJJ, and I’m always in the minority. Sometimes I hate rolling with newbie white belt dudes because they overcompensate for lack of technique with power and panic. Sometimes I handle it well. Sometimes I just get smashed, face in the mat, and just chill out because although I can’t escape, they can’t submit me. I personally like sparring that feels more like a conversation – back and forth, not too intense, but still powerful. That’s me personally, though. I have folks I love sparring with who are way above my belt level, or way above or below my size, and the reason is because of how we roll together.
My passing interest in tournaments is mostly a “hey, how do I stack up against other women at my level” or “how do I handle the pressure to perform” – and I like how it influences my training.
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Excellent post!
I always clap my tiny hands (and then recoil in pain because at least one finger is always fucked up even though I only train no-gi) when Leaahh updates her blog. I’m training with a lot of small(er) people at the moment in Japan and it has helped me so much. Realistically though, it’s probably fucked up my training perspective. When I return to Denmark (where people are huuuge) I’ll be reminded of those days when I had a sparring partner within 10 kg of my weight and then sigh when I’m stuck under a 90 kg newbie dude’s side control. And then I’ll realise I just exhaled which made his side control even tighter. Well, at least my guard retention will sky-rocket because getting passed by a huge dude is a matter of bruised ribs or not.
[Sorry, I’m ranting]
I’m in Korea, and I have the same type of thing – loads of dudes around my size. I go to where mostly Americans train and I’m tiny in comparison. 🙁
The main differences I’ve found are, not surprisingly, physical in nature. One of my favorite training partners is female. She’s super technical, but also super small. Due to her size, I dial back my strength and athleticism quite a bit, but completely go for it from a technical standpoint. We have some damn good matches, and since I slow things down and dial back my strength, I know my technique improves.
I don’t know if I’m doing her any favors, though. It sounds like I should occasionally smash her a bit to prepare her for grappling with other females.
You are not in charge of her training (as far as I know), so ask I mentioned, ask her. She and her coach are in charge of that. Your job isn’t necessarily to prepare her for grappling with other females. In the scheme of things, your job may be to prepare her to grapple with dudes your size. Again – this is where the conversation is helpful, since one woman can’t speak for every other woman.
Now I have a question for the women!
If you compete, should I NOT be dialing back my strength, top game pressure, and explosiveness? Am I doing you a disservice by scaling back my physicality, rather than bringing it to you the way another woman will in competition?
For me, the thing to do is simply ask her. Ask her if she’d like you to go harder. Ask her if she’d like you to use more pressure or explosiveness. Simple – because even if Chelsea said “hell yeah!” your partner might say “hell no!” – it’s person dependent.
I personally would not necessarily want that. Perhaps a 10% increase, but not going full bore. But that’s ME. I’m a hobbyist who occasionally competes.
So this “communication” thing you speak of… I should try it, huh? haha Good point, Julia.